tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432386330226362504.post2134139627246709744..comments2024-01-28T08:51:51.657-05:00Comments on Sports And The City: I Don't Get ItNavin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)http://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432386330226362504.post-91939971142256089132010-09-17T13:21:49.979-04:002010-09-17T13:21:49.979-04:00@ Clayton: Cheers.
@ William: I absolutely agree....@ Clayton: Cheers.<br /><br />@ William: I absolutely agree. The MSM can't have it both ways. I even emailed Bruce Dowbiggin about his piece. He appeared as a guest on the show I used to work on. I'm hoping he responds. And I agree with you on your last point as well; it really is a strange time to be in the print media. But instead of looking down at bloggers, more attempts need to be made at coexistence. A backlash against having bloggers in the press box ... how does that help?<br /><br />@ Ian: Thanks for the kind words, mate. Personally, I think there is a "fan" switch, one I honestly believe I have the ability to turn on and off. Let's call it the Objectivity Switch (I'm copywriting that shit for the book I one day plan to write on the topic.) And you're bang on with your last point. It's not that we necessarily don't want clubhouse access, we 100% don't. The fact that it's perceived that we need it, that we can't be trusted without said access, is completely wrong. As I pointed out, what's so special about the lines athletes spew? They get media training, for Christ's sake.<br /><br />@ Archi: I'm glad you had your moment of clarity.<br /><br />@ mike: Thanks. I agree with LT67, and good on the accountable bloggers that are taking those who aren't doing their jobs to task. It will indeed be interesting to see how it all plays out. I think we'll see more of the Down Goes Browns of the blogging world appearing in our newspapers. And as long as the quality remains high, how is that a bad thing?<br /><br />@ blurr: Thanks, Blurr. I went in with a game plan, you know. And I just tried to execute. I stuck to the fundamentals of blogging and just left it all out there on the keyboard. But I couldn't have done it without blogger, and my internet connection, and the coffee I was drinking at Starbucks. It was a real team effort, and, you know, if I continue to blog this way, only good things can happen.<br /><br />@ The Ack: Listen, buddy, you're a blogger. And a damn good one, too. I think your point speaks to the larger one though, and William touched on it. It doesn't matter that you don't consider yourself a blogger, but because you blog, you're a target. You have to be thought of as someone who wants that newspaper job. It's a crazy time. The landscape is literally changing before our eyes, and that's what I tried to point out using my experience in broadcast. We were mandated to blog as broadcast journalists. And get on Twitter. And a few of the journalists did question whether it was worth it. A journalist's job became producing television, and producing a blog post. We weren't paid extra to do it, either. It became a part of our job. It was added to our plate. Very interesting times.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432386330226362504.post-77839818688612081132010-09-17T11:11:09.840-04:002010-09-17T11:11:09.840-04:00This may seem odd, but I don't now and never h...This may seem odd, but I don't now and never have considered myself a "blogger", like it's some title I've earned. I'm just a fan who likes to bullshit on the internet, occasionally provide a chuckle (I hope), occasionally bring The Serious.<br /><br />I can only speak for myself when I say that I don't have aspirations to take his job. Dowbiggin needs to chill and realize the "behaviors" he accuses the blogosphere of are happening at least as egregiously amongst his peers.The Ackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374953233006854310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432386330226362504.post-45005327978292874162010-09-17T10:41:27.593-04:002010-09-17T10:41:27.593-04:00Great post. You gave this one 110%. :)Great post. You gave this one 110%. :)blurr1974https://www.blogger.com/profile/09703655873980666899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432386330226362504.post-14386034322015418522010-09-17T07:34:06.348-04:002010-09-17T07:34:06.348-04:00great post, well articulated.
as commenter Lt67 s...great post, well articulated.<br /><br />as commenter <b>Lt67</b> said over on TSM, new media are separating the men from the boys, or, as i would put it, the hacks from the people who are earning their paycheque. <br /><br />it's pretty clear that some people employed by mainstream outlets feel threatened because blogs out-write them and twitter out-scoops them, while others have embraced the challenge and the diversity and managed to produce good content across the board.<br /><br />my suspicion is that the blogs v MSM debate will be over (at least in sports) soon, because the people who keep stoking that fire won't have jobs anymore (hopefully). it's a death throe on the way to obsolescence.MJKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16655511182506995468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432386330226362504.post-33622753316133554542010-09-17T02:39:54.791-04:002010-09-17T02:39:54.791-04:00True story: The first time I set foot in the Toron...True story: The first time I set foot in the Toronto Blue Jays clubhouse and interviewed a professional baseball player was the moment I knew I no longer wanted to work in 'sports journalism'.Archihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02151272110728462869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432386330226362504.post-59573887556177766292010-09-16T23:44:02.141-04:002010-09-16T23:44:02.141-04:00Navin, this is a sick blog post my friend. Great s...Navin, this is a sick blog post my friend. Great stuff.<br /><br />Honestly, I'm perfectly happy with the way things are. I don't think I could do the job of Jordan Bastian or Richard Griffin because you're in the clubhouse day in and day out, and as a journalist you have to put your fandom aside. I honestly don't think I could do that. <br /><br />The one time I was actually in the Jays pressbox, I saw Scott Rolen hit a home run and my first instinct was to stand up and cheer - but I had to stop myself because all the press guys were around.<br /><br />I don't think the bloggers need full access to the clubhouse because maybe we don't necessarily want it.Ian Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01074587524873409802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432386330226362504.post-7916026328295558262010-09-16T21:36:48.216-04:002010-09-16T21:36:48.216-04:00Well said. I expounded myself on the Cox flap and ...Well said. I expounded myself on the Cox flap and the blending of MSMs and bloggers and how they can't have it both ways. If they want to wear the mantle of professional media men and women, then they have to adhere to the facts and not speculation without sources or backup. The average reader turns to these so-called professionals for news they can trust, right? Isn't that the difference they always throw in our blogging faces? You can't do it both ways. Or you can, but if you do, then cut the crap and let everyone know that we are all now on equal footing. At the very least, you have to separate and label what is news and what is commentary, don't you?<br /><br />I personally don't blame newspaper writers. Their world is a scary place right now. Facing such end-of-the-world futures, I would get a bit defensive and high-minded too. But if they could just take a step back, they would see that they've turned a corner and there's no going back. They are bloggers...just like the rest of us.William J. Taskerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02313204947130235560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432386330226362504.post-80014215245452763982010-09-16T18:25:22.758-04:002010-09-16T18:25:22.758-04:00Outstanding.Outstanding.Clayton Hanslernoreply@blogger.com